Timmins Local Citizens Committee

Minutes of the April 13, 2005 Meeting

Apr 13 hours: 32
Year to date: 455.6
Total: 4138.40

Date: April 13, 2005

Location: Gallery Meeting Room, Gold Mine Tour

Present: Bill Russell, Gary Scripnick, Marvin Frew, Corrie King, Michael Fallat, Dino Pellarin, Bob Bielek, Jenny Millson, Nicholas Schwehr, Greg Corrigal, Kees Stryland, Mark Joron, Mike Malek, Melanie Johnson, Shawn Connors, Bill Hutchison.

Regrets: Robert Vien, Robert Calhoun, Alan Moyle, Paul Demers, Real Gendron,

MNR: Terry Pawson

Guest: Chris Johnson

7:00 p.m. Meeting called to order by chairman, Bill Russell

CHAIRMAN’S COMMENTS and CORRESPONDENCE:

· Northwatch email regarding nuclear waste
· Call from Kapuskasing LCC requesting permission to send a member to a Timmins LCC meeting
· Canadian Environmental Assessment Committee regarding Pamour Pit Expansion
Comments included:
Gary Scripnick – cutting off 1/3 of the lake and adding another 1/3 to the other end doesn’t make sense to him when the pit will be flooded eventually & could become part of the lake.
Bill Russell – a spawning bed could be put in the expanded area.
Terry Pawson – fisheries biologist said most open pits are dead below 20’. Part of Adams mine was used but the fish were caged in.
Mike Fallat – concerned with leaching of heavy metals into the body of water if the pit were linked to the lake.
· Tembec letter – AWS 2007/2009

Corrections to Minutes of March 09, 2005
· Spelling correction to Kees Stryland’s name

Mike Fallat moved that the minutes of March 09, 2005 be accepted. Seconded by Dino Pellarin. Motion carried.

Gary Scripnik informed the committee that the White Moose issue was raised at FANOM in Sault Ste. Marie on the weekend and the members supported the Timmins City Council resolution to protect the white moose.

DISCUSSION AND DEVELOPMENT OF ISSUE TRACKING SYSTEM

1. Action Items will be tracked by:
Date Action Taken Completed by

2. Amendments / Revisions to AWS & FMP needing decisions will be tracked by:
Date Approval Comments/Recommendations

3. Recommendations Follow up

Corrie will track any Action items, Amendments/Revision decisions and Recommendations going back approximately one year.

Time will be allotted at the end of each agenda for the review of action items.

Members listed some other items that have appeared before the LCC.
Montcalm review
· Review requested for 1 year after presentation
· Montcalm not in the Timmins District.
· Gary Scripnick sits on Montcalm committee & will invite them to come back with an update.
Bill Russell would like a follow up from Grant’s as to how much aspen was lost to bugs (worms) last year.
Dave Bucar of Porcupine Joint Venture will be invited back for an update on the highway, lake and pit.

Jenny Millson said the LCC should be monitoring AWS & FMP’s for follow-up to the LCC recommendations & approvals. (noted above)

Terry noted that the tracking of items will be helpful at the time of the independent audit of the LCC.

Gary Scripnick asked that the minutes of the March 09, 2005 meeting be re-opened for a correction to one of his comments.

Marvin Frew moved that the minutes of March 09, 2005 be re-opened. Seconded by Shawn Connors. Motion carried.

The minutes will be revised to read:

“Gary Scripnick asked whether Birch water from the conservation area can be sold commercially. Megan replied that it is not a permitted use to collect the Birch water in the conservation reserve but an application could be made to the MNR.”

Gary moved that the corrected minutes be approved. Seconded by Kees. Motion carried.

DEVELOPMENT OF POTENTIAL TRAINING TOPICS

New FMP Planning Manual
· FM section put out a CD with 10-12 training modules @ 15 minutes each.
· Terry will drop them into the meetings periodically.
The presentations we listened to regarding Lake Trout/Moose can be considered as training.

Gary would like to get more understanding of Department of Fisheries & Oceans (DFO). Terry suggested that the MNR representatives could give us some background on DFO decisions.

· Brian Hutchinson – the DFO have a lot of influence on what we do as they regulate any body of water that contains aquatic life.

· Kees Stryland – the drilling at the Mac changed the shoreline and the DFO came in to check on it.

Mark Joron – LCC once went out in a plane to have an aerial view of the tailings placements etc. at KamKotia. He would like to see this type of learning experience happen again.

Porcupine Joint Venture is using Abitibi biowaste on their tailings.

GPS Training

Lydar Technology

Terry Pawson – this is not a ‘static’ list. MNR as well as LCC members can come up with training topics throughout the year. Presentations provide a level of training as well as being general interest. Ideas can be forwarded to the chairman, secretary, MNR liason.

BREAK

During the break, the membership list was reviewed and any additions or corrections were noted. Terry Pawson will bring Privacy Legislation letters to the next meeting for members to sign off.

UPDATE FROM LCC ROMEO MALETTE PLANNING TEAM MEMBERS

Mike Fallat and Bob Bielek attended the March 30, 2005 meeting. Mike updated the members:
· Most of the meeting was used to discuss roads
· Discussion regarding Peter Hynard’s visit
· Poplar amendment will be out by the end of April
· Contingency plan (2 year period) was talked to by Don Beasley
· Moose survey was talked to by Jamie Mucha as well as stick nests
· Road people explained mapping of Primary & Secondary roads
· Moving from a ‘preliminary’ team to a ‘planning’ team
Mark Joron asked about any training that was received.
Mike Fallat – there was one section regarding reviewing Annual Reports but it wasn’t felt that the LCC needed it. Mike commented that he was very comfortable at the meeting and would be very comfortable sitting in on the sessions regarding Annual Reports.

GENERAL DISCUSSION REGARDING LCC ACCOMPLISHMENTS DURING 2004

Gary Scripnick – building of membership great benefit

Bill Russell – Forum hosting was a major accomplishment. The feedback was that it was one of the best attended. The planning began in January of 2004.

Terry Pawson – would like a copy of the picture CD from the forum. Will have the minutes from the forum put on a CD along with the photos and is hoping to forward it to the other LCC’s sometime in May. Mike Malek will burn a copy of the photo CD.

Mark Joron prefers the CD’s to hard copies.

SPORTSMAN SHOW – APRIL 23, 24

The MNR will be putting up a display and the LCC could tag along to their booth to talk to people about the LCC & their relationship with the MNR.

The LCC has a poster and contact information presently. A brochure could be developed as an ‘accomplishment’ for next year. Included could be a map of the area our LCC covers.

Gary Scripnick asked if the MNR has people who could put together a brochure.
It could include: People (photo of the group)
Zone covered
Some topics we’ve covered

NOMINATION AND ELECTION OF CHAIR AND ALTERNATE

The meeting was turned over to Terry Pawson.

Nominations for chair:
1. Bill Russell nominated by Marvin Frew and seconded by Bob Bielek. Bill accepted the nomination.
2. None
3. None
Bill Russell is the LCC Chairman for another term of one year.

Nominations for alternate:
1. Gary Scripnick nominated by Corrie King and seconded by Kees Stryland. Gary accepted the nomination.
2. Mark Joron nominated by Mike Fallat and seconded by Marvin Frew. Mark declined the nomination.
3. None
Gary Scripnick is the LCC Alternate Chairman for another term of one year.

With the approved agenda completed, the meeting was adjourned at 9:00 p.m.

The next meeting will be held on May 11, 2005 in the Gallery Meeting Room at the Timmins Underground Goldmine Tour. (behind the Shania Twain Centre)

Dinner at 6:00 p.m. Meeting at 7:00 p.m.

 

 

Minutes prepared by Corrie King